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Updated: Quebec Police Admit Using Undercover Agents at Montebello
Submitted by Dr.Frink on Thu, 08/23/2007 - 16:44.
This is going to be very brief as information is just now breaking, but after explicitly denying the use of undercover agents at the SPP protests at the Montebello North American summit, the Surete Quebec, the provincial police agency, has admitted having undercover agents..
More to come Cross posted in Orange. By kidneystones | By Scout Finch By oreo By meldroc This is a classic Public Relations blunder. Disclosure - I have written corporate PR during my working life. Yes, I've been a corporate flack (shame). Although there is such a beast as ethical PR. I know a wee bit about it. Rule #1 - Come clean immediately. Backpedalling later makes you appear more foolish and incompetent. UPDATE: We now have a second media report from the Ottawa Citizen
So, undercover agents were made. Still no explicit admission that these are the guys caught on the video. But somebody Puh-leeze tell me it doesn't mean exactly what I think it means. UPDATE 2: It gets better. Way better. SQ flat out admits these guys in the video were undercover. h/t to RossK at The Gazetteer. he's tracked down the Media Release from the SQ here in French. There's a fair amount of spin in it. No surprise. The money quote, which Ross ran through Google Translator with some human help follows.
The second paragraph is a bit of a mangled translation. A more accurate translation would be:
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Not surprised this is coming out ...
On the drive home tonight, I heard a report on CBC radio by Nick Gomesh (sp?).
He said that when asked directly if the three men are police officers, the RCMP said no. However, the SC (Surete du Quebec, spokeswoman’s name was Melanie …) would NOT go so far as to say the three men weren't police officers when asked directly. The SC said they know who the men are, but refused to reveal their names to the media.
Gomesh then said he investigated the claim made in the youtube video and news articles about the similarity between the boots of the three men with those of the police, and confirmed that the boots are in fact the same – Vibrant, 134AR model – which is a common boot used by police and firefighters.
Gomesh contacted retired police officers (gave names but I wasn’t able to remember them) for their opinion on the three men, and all concluded that they did not act like normal protesters.
NDP members Peter Julian and Libby Davies are calling for a public inquiry – they want confirmation and explanation of the use of agent provocateurs.
Lyin' Bastards
Flat. Out. Busted.
Everything's cheaper than it looks.
You tax dollars at work
I applaud your work on this, ff. Investigation, fact checking, informative and concise writing, caution in not assuming what is not yet known. Flat out good work.
Ok, twonnies on the bar. Where will the buck stop ?
Choice A ) independent action by three off-duty SQ police officers
Choice B ) unauthorized operation hatched by low level SQ group assigned as security to Montebello
Choice C ) planned by CISC and signed off on by the PMO and the White House
The bet is for what will be proven within the next six months. The fall guy will be a Canadian, without a doubt. Will there be a proven connection to the Conservative party or only to the Harper government or will no connection be proven ?
Perhaps I shouldn't write this. Speculation and conjecture does not advance the real and important job of ferreting out what happened and informing people of the truth. I will delete this if anyone thinks it is distracting or counterproductive.
[edit - changed SU to SQ - I hope you knew what I meant }
Story Updated
They've 'fessed up.
But, this isn't over. Still a lot of questions. Who else was involved beyond the SQ?
Everything's cheaper than it looks.
Apparently
There is now to be a press conference at 3:30 with the Quebec PP to address this bullshit.(via Globe and Mail) I hope that someone asks some good questions
OHHHH fun
This is getting bigger daily....:) thanks for the heads up Jazzizbest. :)
Powers that be, powers of three, keep me strong during this insanity......
Wonderful
Making a note that it will be half past noon in my time zone.
No doubt they will be spinning madly.
Hopefully the media will keep the spokesperson's feet to teh fire.
Everything's cheaper than it looks.